How is your final diameter size en milimeters for a 13" and 14" snare? - DrumShed

pedroscifo · 12-31-2009

Hi mates: how are u? How is your final diameter size en milimeters for a 13" and 14" snare obviusly when it rounded? Speaking about stave snare drums. I know that is 12 7/8 for a 13" and 13 7/8 for a 14" but precisely in milimeters...how much? Because a Luthier here tell that he use just 13" and 14" because the drum head molds...

Thanks in advance and Happy new year for everyone fron Argentina

koko · 01-01-2010

Hi pedroscifo,

multiply 13.875 x 2.54 and you'l find exact diameter in mm. (12.875 for a 13)

pedroscifo · 01-01-2010

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Originally Posted by koko

Hi pedroscifo,

multiply 13.875 x 2.54 and you'l find exact diameter in mm. (12.875 for a 13)

Hi master koko! Yeah I know that but my doubt is more especific...I'm trying to know is for example u finish de shell in (for a 13" snare is 327mm) 326mm,327mm or a bit more like 328mm,329mm,330mm for example (this luthier for a 13" snare use exactly 13" and this is 330mm and not 327mm)

The same with the 14" snare not 352mm if not he finish the shell 355mm. He tell me that the undersized is more used in a tom or a bass drum not in a snare drum....Greetings

hippybaker · 01-02-2010

Almost all drums are that way. Even snares. I do not believe I have ever seen an actual 14" drum.
I have read that a head will not go nicely onto a 14" drum. I think it NEEDS to be 1/8 under.

koko · 01-02-2010

My first set of shells are full inch sizes, and none of the heads would fit. I had to build some funky 67,5 degree edges to get the heads on.

So, 1/8 undersize is common size.

PDGood · 01-02-2010

For a typical snare drum, it helps to remember that the drumhead itself is 14" so the shell must be less than that. Most are 1/8" less for all except the kick.

JLee · 01-02-2010

I once measured the diameter of my entire set of Kellers (8,10,12,14,16, 22, 14" snare) and found they were very uniform - all almost exactly 1/8" undersized.

I once got the idea that I could make Octobans out of some 6" OD PVC we had lying around at work. I was wrong. While I figured I could force the heads over the end, it wasn't happening. Went and measured and found that the PVC really WAS 6". Just seemed like it was bigger because the head was so far from seating properly.

pedroscifo · 01-03-2010

Thanks for the information mates

12-31-2009	#1
pedroscifo New Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Argentina,Mendoza Posts: 29	How is your final diameter size en milimeters for a 13" and 14" snare? Hi mates: how are u? How is your final diameter size en milimeters for a 13" and 14" snare obviusly when it rounded? Speaking about stave snare drums. I know that is 12 7/8 for a 13" and 13 7/8 for a 14" but precisely in milimeters...how much? Because a Luthier here tell that he use just 13" and 14" because the drum head molds... Thanks in advance and Happy new year for everyone fron Argentina Last edited by pedroscifo; 12-31-2009 at 05:40 PM.

01-01-2010	#2
koko Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,008	Hi pedroscifo, multiply 13.875 x 2.54 and you'l find exact diameter in mm. (12.875 for a 13) __________________ www.signaturedrums.com koko@signaturedrums.com handbuild stave drums to your Signature

01-02-2010	#5
koko Administrator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,008	My first set of shells are full inch sizes, and none of the heads would fit. I had to build some funky 67,5 degree edges to get the heads on. So, 1/8 undersize is common size. __________________ www.signaturedrums.com koko@signaturedrums.com handbuild stave drums to your Signature

01-02-2010	#7
JLee I am the Decider!!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,472	I once measured the diameter of my entire set of Kellers (8,10,12,14,16, 22, 14" snare) and found they were very uniform - all almost exactly 1/8" undersized. I once got the idea that I could make Octobans out of some 6" OD PVC we had lying around at work. I was wrong. While I figured I could force the heads over the end, it wasn't happening. Went and measured and found that the PVC really WAS 6". Just seemed like it was bigger because the head was so far from seating properly. __________________ Measure three times, drill ONCE . . . AND CUSS UP A STORM!!

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01-02-2010	#4
hippybaker Student of the drum Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 228	Almost all drums are that way. Even snares. I do not believe I have ever seen an actual 14" drum. I have read that a head will not go nicely onto a 14" drum. I think it NEEDS to be 1/8 under.

01-02-2010	#6
PDGood Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,835	For a typical snare drum, it helps to remember that the drumhead itself is 14" so the shell must be less than that. Most are 1/8" less for all except the kick.

01-03-2010	#8
pedroscifo New Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Argentina,Mendoza Posts: 29	Thanks for the information mates

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