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Woody
09-26-2004, 12:35 PM
So how many of you clean your cymbals?

How often?

Is it a sound issue or just for appearance?

What cleaners and techniques do you use?

Anyone prefer the sound of uncleaned cymbals?

I personally like the sound of some "phunk" on many cymbals, but tend to shine them up about every 3 months using Flitz only to look cool. The lone exception is my 10-year-old B8Pro ride. I think it just sounds better dirty.

Woody

Kanbasher
09-26-2004, 03:33 PM
I like clean, shiny cymbals. Always have. I would say I do it more for appearance as I don't let them get grungy enough to notice a sound change. I clean them when nessesary. I play predominantly Paiste's so I use their polish/cleaner.

fido
09-26-2004, 05:23 PM
i like shiny to :) makes it look better.does it realy matter what kibnd of cleaner you use? like useing piastes cleaner on a sabian?

Dave The Drummer
09-26-2004, 06:35 PM
I've cleaned my cymbals about three times in the last 10 years.
They need cleaning about as much as a car does.

DFender
09-26-2004, 06:59 PM
I like to have clean and shiny cymbals!

Old Jazz cymbals should never be cleaned... They just get better with age.

The new brilliant cymbals are already buffed out, why not keep them that way?

bilkay
09-26-2004, 09:19 PM
I think the lacquered cymbals (like Paiste Signatures) should definitely be cleaned (though I haven't cleaned mine in over a year. :oops:

I have some 1970s vintage Zildjian A's that I have cleaned (last time was 5 or 6 years ago) and a couple of K Custom Dark rides I'll probably never clean.

I also have some Paiste Traditionals and Sound Formulas that I'm planning to clean this week when I clean the Signatures (just bought the Paiste cleaner).

Don't know how I'll feel when I get my hands on some Istanbuls and Bosphorus cymbals.

Can ya tell I didn't vote in the poll?

russelldl
09-27-2004, 10:24 AM
I never clean them. I think they sound much better dirty but then I prefer darker, lower tones and not bright cutting overtones. And I buy mostly old used cymbals anyway, that way I dont have to buy a new cymbal and go out and bury it in the yard.

O-Lugs
09-27-2004, 11:16 AM
I clean my vintage cymbals and then I never touch them with my fingers after that. For gigging, I am not particular about any of that. My ride cymbal for gigs happens to be a "Brilliant" finish A. Zildjian Flat Top ride...yes, it's the deadest cymbal in the world...but I think the brilliant finish helps to prevent buildup of "junk" from oxidation, so it never looks that dirty.

I think cymbals sound brighter (more highs) when they are clean...and that can enhance some cymbals, but there are other cymbals that probably sound better when they are oxidized.

How about a third catyegory for clean cymbals that are ripe with patina but NOT "dirty"?

Crazy8s
09-27-2004, 12:16 PM
Cymbals that are dirty are drier and darker. The brilliant coating they put on cymbals makes them drier also. Anything that gets put onto a cymbal will make it ring less, and therefore be "drier" sounding. Blood, sweat and muddafuggin beer really makes them drier.

I would trade most of the sound quality on good looks if I were playing live. Nothing looks cooler than cymbals rocking back and forth under red, green, and blue par can light!

rhjanes
09-27-2004, 12:19 PM
polished up with glitter on them!!! and a disco ball and......

russelldl
09-27-2004, 12:20 PM
Blood, sweat and muddafuggin beer really makes them drier.

Sweat really does a job, at least on old cymbals. It makes big green oxidized marks wherever it hits.

Ox
09-27-2004, 02:23 PM
I use the "Zimms" cleaner.....just spray (wait 10 seconds) then rinse away(with water) (off couse you need to dry them off with a towel)........leaves logos still in tact.

I like my stuff "Bling-Bling" yo!!!!!!

Bdrummer
09-27-2004, 08:55 PM
I like Cymbals to shine as much as possible. Whenever I clean them up I use a spray from Dunlop (yes,they also make guitarpicks...)

I play Zildjian Z Custom. But the main problem is that I barely have the opportunity to clean 'em as I tend to break them before they get dirty.
They never live longer than about 2-3 months max. Especialy during the busy festival-summer period...

But than again,once I get my new ones they shine already...

Woody
09-27-2004, 09:33 PM
Good god man!

I play HARD and rarely break cymbals. Let alone Z Customs!

Are you playing with sticks or ball peen hammers?

I guess that's one way to get outta cleaning em!

Woody

punkrocksmysocks
09-27-2004, 10:42 PM
i dont clean cuz im lazy. i dont clean my room i wont clean my cymbals. unless i need to sell em.

...gach
09-27-2004, 11:02 PM
me like shiny cymbals...

i had finger cheese all over my cymbals after band camp, came home, picked up some groove juice at the local drum store, and BAM those babies look like they are brand new!!! no joke!!!!!! that stuff is the ****...


gach

Crazy8s
09-29-2004, 12:05 PM
Good god man!

I play HARD and rarely break cymbals. Let alone Z Customs!

Are you playing with sticks or ball peen hammers?

I guess that's one way to get outta cleaning em!

Woody

Z's and Sabian's Metal lines typically break more easily as they don't flex as readily as thinner cymbals. I have crushed through so many "Metal" and "Z" cymbals, but my 18" medium thins that I have are unscathed and I play em just as hard and frequently. It also makes a big difference on the angle you set them at. I have them nearly perpendicular to the ground and I hit them at a really nasty angle.

russelldl
09-30-2004, 08:41 AM
I've heard that the Z's break along the hammering alot as well.

harshandrawand
09-30-2004, 08:56 AM
clean??? no way! i play two 70s A 20" crashes and a K 20" custom ride. The newer brilliant finish cymbals don't seem to have the complex overtones that older, dirty cymbals do, and I fear that cleaning them would reverse that. Of course Im sure that is a good reason for some of you to keep them clean, if you want more focused sounds.