Could someone with an Ekit check something for me?

[JLee]

If anyone out there following this thread has an electronic kit with electronic CYMBALS, I was wondering if they might do me a favor:

After my dismal experiment with converting plastic Pintechs, and pricing even used e-cymbals on the internet, I think I am going in a different direction - that is, buying a couple of cheap cymbals (16" and 14") on Ebay and riveting on piezos, then affixing gum rubber playing surfaces.

So, if you could check and see what the thickness is of the gum rubber playing surface on your kit(s) I would certainly appreciate it.

[tcraw1010]

I wonder how that would work - considering the metal composition of the cymbals and all.

A very interesting idea, though . . . and it would also be aesthetically pleasing as well.


I'll be interested in what you are able to find out as well.




TOM

[JLee]

Actually, while aesthetics are somewhat of a concern, I am looking into this more because I would like to try to approximate what a real cymbal is like. Needless to say, plastic Pintechs do not come close, even with the rubber pad I affixed to them, and even with the "cymbals" fastened down as tight as they will go.

I guess that is a valid concern, though, as to whether or not the metal composition will affect the triggering. I am pretty sure that there are ecymbals out there with bronze alloy, so I am not sure if the effect would vary from metal to metal.

I just figure that, for the cost of a couple of cheap no name cymbals, some piezos, hardware and gum rubber, it is worth a try.

[tcraw1010]

Absolutely it's worth a try !!!

[weldman]

Actually, while aesthetics are somewhat of a concern, I am looking into this more because I would like to try to approximate what a real cymbal is like. Needless to say, plastic Pintechs do not come close, even with the rubber pad I affixed to them, and even with the "cymbals" fastened down as tight as they will go.

I guess that is a valid concern, though, as to whether or not the metal composition will affect the triggering. I am pretty sure that there are ecymbals out there with bronze alloy, so I am not sure if the effect would vary from metal to metal.

I just figure that, for the cost of a couple of cheap no name cymbals, some piezos, hardware and gum rubber, it is worth a try.

at vdrums.com and http://edrum.for.free.fr/index.php there are plans for electric cymbals

basicly, you buy some cheap acustic cymals, cover the bottom with dynomad, attach a piezo with some rivits and put some rubber on the play area

i went to northern tools and got some non skit pad normally used for the tool cases but it has many uses for me :D

here is a pic of mine so far...
http://photobucket.com/albums/y22/moody07747/Music/E%20drum%20set/?action=view&current=tapeoff.jpg
...i only have the play area toped with non skid pad...its attached with some spray adhesive from lowes....some cheap stuff that sticks well and cleans up nice and easy...it was only $3.98

be sure to cover the cymbal where you dont want any glue cuz this stuff get everywhere

[boobus]

how cheap will that be, Jlee?

If you're up for spending a little more, trol or a couple of Visu-Lite cymbals. They have triggers, work well, and feel realistic. I got a 18" dual ride and 16" chokeable crash for $75 total on eBay. I don't think I could've made a better cymbal on my own. However, there aren't many of them out there for sale. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.

[JLee]

how cheap will that be, Jlee?

If you're up for spending a little more, trol or a couple of Visu-Lite cymbals. They have triggers, work well, and feel realistic. I got a 18" dual ride and 16" chokeable crash for $75 total on eBay. I don't think I could've made a better cymbal on my own. However, there aren't many of them out there for sale. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.


I HAVE been checking Ebay, Boobus. Every single day.

Trouble is, you appear to have purchased the last two used Visu-lite cymbals ever
to be available on Ebay ever again, and they are nearly as pricey as Rolands when new.

[boobus]

I HAVE been checking Ebay, Boobus. Every single day.

Trouble is, you appear to have purchased the last two used Visu-lite cymbals ever
to be available on Ebay ever again, and they are nearly as pricey as Rolands when new.

lucky me, i guess. sorry.;)

[JLee]

No need to be sorry.

You got yourself a good deal on what is apparently a good product.

and your timing was impeccable. Good thing to have for a drummer. . . .

[weldman]

If anyone out there following this thread has an electronic kit with electronic CYMBALS, I was wondering if they might do me a favor:

After my dismal experiment with converting plastic Pintechs, and pricing even used e-cymbals on the internet, I think I am going in a different direction - that is, buying a couple of cheap cymbals (16" and 14") on Ebay and riveting on piezos, then affixing gum rubber playing surfaces.

So, if you could check and see what the thickness is of the gum rubber playing surface on your kit(s) I would certainly appreciate it.

hay i just built my 2nd crash/ride cymbal from a cheap 14" cymbal....they work ok with the triggereing but not great

they feel real but the dynomat makes that worse...i would leave it out and just stick with the rubber top

i tried a small trigger and that didnt work out too well but it did work...i just tried a 2" piezo and its great, it triggers on soft hits but wont trigger more than once on one hit...taking off the rubber top worked even more but its noisy...too noisy, for me that is

i would suggest getting some 2" triggers from allelectronics.com and putting some rubber inbetween that and the cymbal

ill go work on my hi-hat now


for crash,,,this works well:
http://photobucket.com/albums/y22/moody07747/Music/E%20drum%20set/?action=view&current=dynomated.jpg

but this work ever better:
http://photobucket.com/albums/y22/moody07747/Music/E%20drum%20set/?action=view&current=crash_ride_2.jpg


the only probelm there is is that it wont trigger if you hit above the trigger, i will try moving it to the side so it will trigger more as i always try to hit the middle of a cymbal

i guess its the ammount of vibration or something but overall im happy with it

[JLee]

Thanks for the info

Nice work on that cymbal as well.

[weldman]

Thanks for the info

Nice work on that cymbal as well.


thanks, i like them too