Converting a cymbal into an Ecymbal

[JLee]

I am pretty happy with the way my ekit turned out, save for two things:

1) the kick drum, because of the relatively low volume that the module is limited to, is mostly attack noise, as opposed to triggering noise, as it is very hard rubber.

I plan on remedying this shortly, as I am building an electronic kick with a mesh head.

2) The cymbals I made out of Pintech plastic practice cymbals STINK!.

They look good, as I actually took the time to drill precisely for the jack, project enclosure and so forth, and cut the rubber pad pretty square, but they feel nothing like playing a real cymbal, unless by "real cymbal" you mean a throw pillow.

So, I have an old Zildjian that is mildewed, scuffed and keyholed substantially. I think I will try converting it into a ride by mounting/riveting two separate triggers (bow, bell).

Any idea as to what thickness of rubber I should use to approximate the thickness of a Hart cymbal? I know if it is too thick I will get no stick response, and if it is too thin, it will be too loud as to be practical.

Thanks

[weldman]

I am pretty happy with the way my ekit turned out, save for two things:

1) the kick drum, because of the relatively low volume that the module is limited to, is mostly attack noise, as opposed to triggering noise, as it is very hard rubber.

I plan on remedying this shortly, as I am building an electronic kick with a mesh head.

2) The cymbals I made out of Pintech plastic practice cymbals STINK!.

They look good, as I actually took the time to drill precisely for the jack, project enclosure and so forth, and cut the rubber pad pretty square, but they feel nothing like playing a real cymbal, unless by "real cymbal" you mean a throw pillow.

So, I have an old Zildjian that is mildewed, scuffed and keyholed substantially. I think I will try converting it into a ride by mounting/riveting two separate triggers (bow, bell).

Any idea as to what thickness of rubber I should use to approximate the thickness of a Hart cymbal? I know if it is too thick I will get no stick response, and if it is too thin, it will be too loud as to be practical.

Thanks

go to vdrums.com

thers something called Dynamat...an aluminum-faced sound dampening asphalt-based adhesive used in car audio.

you put this mat on the bottom of thecymbal

"The dynamat was applied first, then the outline of the piezo traced onto it, and the marked area cut out and peeled off, then the piezo was mounted. I found I had the best response with the piezo underneath the playing area. Keep in mind that there is foam between the cymbal and the piezo. I used pieces of white foam cut from an electrical outlet cover gasket. For something akin to Dynamat, I would recommend trying http://www.secondskinaudio.com."

[weldman]

im useing this setup for my drums, ill see how it works out...it will be a little noisy as the stick sare hitting metal still but i have some non-skid pad that i can put on there and that should do the trick

[JLee]

Weldman,

Thanks for the link.

I will look into it.

[Enraged Panda]

If you have lots of cymbals, you could stick two 19'' crashes together, for example, and stick a trigger on there. Two cymbals glued to eachother has very little sound.

Just an idea...I know nothing about edrums. Other than the experience of that ****ty Hart Prodigy set I bought. Lucky I sold that almost at cost..